Kleisner Reunions

Laurel has met her Czech Kleisner cousins in Europe a total of four times, plus another gathering on Zoom during the pandemic. Below are accounts of each of these Reunions.

Ježovy, April 2014

In the 2000s I had engaged the genealogy services at Ancestry.com to see if I could find any information about our grandfather’s village, or other Kleisner relatives who might be living in the Czech Republic. They were able to find Vaclav Kleisner’s passenger information, traveling from Hamburg, Germany to Baltimore, Maryland, USA, in 1891, but nothing else.

Following a tour of Prague with Lowell in abt. 2010 I preached at the Prague Unitarian Church. After the service I asked the Minister if he knew of any genealogists who could help me find my relatives’ village. He said, “I don’t, but my wife works in the records building and she could help you.” Soon she gave me the name of genealogist David Kahout. I sent what I had from Ancestry.com, and he messaged me “I know exactly where the village is from the information you sent me. It is Ježovy in southwestern Bohemia. I will go visit.”

David then reported that he had traveled to Jezovy and met Joseph and Zdenka Beran. They lived across the street from the original site of the Kleisner home. Joseph was the son of Katarina Kleisner, the youngest sibling of my grandfatherVaclav. Joseph Beran was our second cousin!

In 2014 I returned to Prague and traveled with David Kahout to visit Pilsen and its archives, and then to Ježovy and to visit Joseph and Zdenka Beran. David translated our extraordinary visit.

A Story from the Pilsen Archives

David Kahout took me to the Archives in Pilsen, which housed the genealogical records that were originally kept in the various parish churches. I waited in a carrel while David retrieved the volumes we hoped contained our family records. A man in the carrel next to me leaned over, and in English asked, “Where are you from?” I answered, “Boston, in the United States.” He said, “No, I mean, where is your family from? Monrovia? Prague?” Surprised, I recalibrated and said, “Jezovy.”

He acknowledged my answer as David returned and we turned to our family records, but his question caused me to think about where I was from long after our brief encounter.

The Story of Joseph Kleisner

During my visit to Ježovy, Josef told me a story of his great-uncle Petr Kleisner’s adventure going to the United States to visit his brother Vaclav in Chicago. Josef said that Vaclav and Petr visited the grave of their older brother Joseph (b. 1870 in Ježovy) while he was visiting. Petr then went north through Canada across the Bering Strait to Russia and back home to the Czech Republic. (I may have remembered this trip backwards.)

Since I returned from that visit, we have done extensive research to try to verify Josef’s story. We have found no passenger record for Petr Kleisner’s travels to or from the United States, and no record of Joseph Kleisner’s death or burial. There a passenger record for Joseph traveling to the United States in 188, several records of him living in Chicago, a record of him marrying EleanoraPletka in 1895, and records of the birth (1896) and death (1899) of their son Joseph. However, after 1899, we have yet to find records of either Joseph or Eleanora, which is quite the mystery.

In 2022, at the most recent family reunion, we asked several of Petr’s descendants about Josef’s story. None of them reported hearing it.

When David and I returned from Jezovy to Prague, he asked me “Will you stay in touch?” “Oh yes,” I answered. And I have.


Bratislava, 2019

On October 2 and 3, 2019, Laurel Hallman and her son Peter drove from his home in Vienna, Austria, to Bratislava, Slovakia for brunch with descendants of Petr Kleisner at a private gathering not far from the Danube River. Adam and Viliam Fiedler helped with translating among speakers of English, Czech and Slovak. Conversation flowed freely and joyfully among the Klaisner/Kleisner relatives as they introduced themselves and became acquainted. During the brunch, Laurel was able to talk by phone with Ivan Kleisner who lives in Prague and wasn’t able to travel to the gathering. After our brunch, Jitka Kleisner gave a wonderful presentation of photos and stories of the Petr Kleisner and Marie Merkova descendants. 

Afterward Eva Fiedlerova and Adam Fiedler graciously drove Laurel and Peter to the site of Petr and Marie’s grave. We were glad to spend some time at the grave site of our grandfather’s youngest brother and his wife.

It was a delightful day with our ‘new’ relatives. We promised to do it again!

Back row: Jana Mareková, Adam Fiedler, Peter Hallman, Libor Klenovsky, Eva Klenovsková
Front row: Eva Fiedlerová, Jitka Holuboví, Milada Langová, Marta Petrasová, Laurel Hallman

Peter Hallman, Adam Fiedler and Eva Fiedlerová at the grave of
Petr Kleisner and Marie Kleisnerová in Bratislava

Close up of the gravestone


Zoom, 2020

Laurel had planned a return trip to Ježovy for 2020, but the pandemic happened. Instead, she gathered a number of Czech cousins together on September 2 via Zoom. A screenshot of the meeting is shown below.

Left to right and top to bottom: Laurel Hallman, family genealogist Steve Hartwell, Lowell Klaisner, Ivan Kleisner and his son Ivan, Eva Fiedlerová and her mother Zdenka Kleisner, Viliam Kleisner, Adam Kleisner, Peter Hallman, Marta Kleisner, Milada Kleisner.


Ježovy, 2022

Laurel visited her ancestral homeland again in May, 2022, along with her son Peter. They visited Ježovy and met up with Czech cousins: several from Bratislava, Josef Beran's family and Jan Kužník. Below is her account, along with some photographs of the journey.

The Beginning

On Thursday, May 19, 2022, I started my adventure by flying to Vienna to visit my son Peter Hallman, his wife Klara and my grandchildren Finn and Jasmine.

On Saturday Peter and I drove to ‎Štiřín, Czechia (near Prague) for an overnight. Jan had made reservations for us at a hotel which had very intriguing architecture. We had a wonderful meal here and enjoyed exploring the hotel and walking around the adjoining golf course.

Ježovy

On Sunday, we drove to Ježový to meet our Kleisner relatives. We shared photos and told stories, with Jan doing the translating. Here are some excerpts from a recording we took of our visit.

World War I, the new soldiers. Every man above 20 had to join the army. Here is the picture from here 1914. Somewhere is the ancestor from both our families. Also on the statue Vaclav (Benyr) is a cottager from Ježovy.

This is before 1948. End of harvest. Small celebration to celebrate. Last freedom celebration.  Right before the Communist occupation.

1930 when you look at this building It is the building across the street. A long time since  your Grandfather left, but it is the closest picture we have. Also an end of harvest photo.
Everyone has to work in the field—even the children. Great parade. Short time to enjoy the life.

Photo of fire workers. Look at the equipment! Shovels

A CELEBRATION SHOWN IN THE PHOTOS:  A gathering of native people from Jezovy because of 750 years of the city. (1976). A lot of our common people met during that occasion. Our ancestors probably met during the celebration.

First was a movie, then a presentation, then someone read the “introduction”, then of course the pioneers (Communist Party pioneers). A song—a brass band. Lunch then dance and music (orchestra).

Everyone dancing and drinking. Drinking vodka and then Czech and Russian. The entrance is 30 crowns. Not expensive. I was born in 1976 so I don’t remember it. (Laurel: Do your family members remember?) Yes. Sent invitations to everybody who lived in Jezovy, even to Prague. Special stamp. Commemorative. My Grandmother received it.
Officials organized it. Not possible for the people to organize things in the Communist time.

FARMERS IN THE TOWN? Nobody farms now. Just a few people work in the farming. They own agriculture. Two or three. Have their own property and work on them as farmers. The others work somewhere.

A CAKE IS PRESENTED: This is a special cake. This is the only place (the area around) 16 of May. Is St. James (Jan says it’s his name) celebration for him! This is the only day of the year when the families bake these cakes. Fluffy.
You can buy a similar one in the shop. But the families make them. Every housekeeper has to make a different pattern on it from the others. If you were a good chef you will have several cakes with a different pattern on them.

NAMES: When we are talking 70 years back, which is the age of the women in the photo, it was a common name: Anna
When they have a child and the child dies, they name the next child the same name. Only when it gives you the birthday do you know which Anna it is.
Even in a small house. #31, three families together. Three Marias. So if you called the name you wouldn’t know who was called. Josef and his Father, his son has a newborn baby, as his Father has a son, who is the brother of Josef, and they give them the same name. Is it the Father’s son, or his Son’s son Josef
A lot of mistakes in these ancestor sites. I found other Kleisners in Moravia. Thinking it’s good, but it was a completely different Kleisner.

STREET NAMES:  In the Czech Region we change the names of the streets four times. When Communists come, we change them. When a republic, we change again. Nazis came, took out the Czech ones and put German. Then Russians come... After the revolution we changed them back to the historic name in 1945. Some streets you can’t find if you don’t know the time they were named. This is Europe. But lots of changes.

BRATISLAVA RELATIVES:
Here are the photos of the Bratislava people

Eva, her son, another son, Jana, Zdenka, Jetka, Psychiatrist Libor, his wife, (Ivan was not there. We talked with him on the phone). Jan’s Aunt knows Ivan

PETR KLEISNER’ Here is the cemetery with Petr Kleisner’s grave.
Here’s Petr Kleisner’s grave. Josef Beran told the story about Petr Kleisner’s service in the Czech Legion.

There are more sources about The Legion. Stories of the founding of the Czech Republic. (Laurel) I will send you a copy.

(Laurel) I wrote to the author who showed me where to go. I looked on the site but couldn’t find Petr’s name.

Jan: I know where to find these army files. He will be there. He was a prisoner of Soviet Union? Or Russia? If he was in Vladivloska he was fighting against the Russians. Fighting on the right side of power. Could be the reason he was a prisoner of war. All the records could have been completely lost. Again, there is another archive. Since the revolution, it’s a huge possibility there would be Petr at this site.

It must be 1920-something.  

Jan: How do you know that Petr saw the grave of Josef in America?

Laurel: Josef Beran told me the story here when I visited.

Jan: It doesn’t make sense.

When he was released as a POW there was no other reason for him to come to the US. Why would he have done that?

(Much discussion in Czech)

To Laurel: Her Father (Josef Beran) told you the story about the journey of Petr?

(Much more discussion in Czech)

Eva Beran, Jan Kuznik, Zdenka Beran’s sister, Peter Hallman (with cat) .

Front: Zdenka Beran’s sister, Laurel Hallman, Zdenka Beran, Josef and Zdenka Beran’s daughters Alena and Eva.

Back: Peter Hallman, Jan Kuznik’s aunt, husband of Beran daughter on the end

Front: Eva Beran, Zdenka Beran and granddaughter, ? and ?
Back: ?, ? and ?, ?, ?, Alena and Miloslav Svoboda

Driving Around the Area

The house where Jan Kuznik grew up in Jezovy.

Below is a photo of the Chateau here in Jezovy. It was the first building here. During the communist era, it was a center for agriculture. Now it is privately owned.

After Josef Beran died in 2021, the family had the grave redone with a new stone. Jan, his Aunt, Peter and I went to visit the grave. The graveyard is in Vřeskovice. Family members are buried vertically in this gravesite. Josef Beran is buried here.

Group Photos at the Beran house in Ježovy


Saturday Photographs

Ježovy, 2024

Both sides of a handmade ornament by Eva Kleisnerová Baxová, presented to Laurel at lunch on Sunday

In early May of 2024, nine members of the American Klaisner family journeyed to the Czech Republic for a reunion with their Czech cousins. The event was held at the Pivní Hotel in Nepomuk the weekend of May 4-5. We were in a comfortable meeting room at the hotel on Saturday, and enjoyed two meals, two genealogy presentations by Stephen Hartwell and many wonderful conversations with the help of our translator Helena.

We traveled 30 minutes by car to Ježovy on Sunday, where we were hosted for lunch in the home of Zdeňka Beranová Sobrová, across the street from the original Kleisner homestead. In addition, we toured the Kleisner ancestral village in the morning, and journeyed to nearby Vřeskcovice in the afternoon to visit the church where Kleisner ancestors were baptized and marriage. We also inspected the adjoining graveyard where family cousins are buried. A smaller group topped off the weekend with a tour of the Švihov Water Castle.

Sunday Photographs

Weekend Program

More from the 2024 Reunion

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Saturday Morning Presentation:
Connections

Genealogy Wall Chart

Saturday Afternoon Presentation
Ancestors

Each of the presentation slides has key words translated into Czech. Stephen's speaker notes are included, but these are English-only.